suvroc | Frances Bean Cobain has suicide-themed 16th birthday party!

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To answer that age-old question, "Whatever happened to Frances Bean?" Well, she turned out to be the celebrity child of Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love. Who'd have thunk it!

Click the link above for more pictures and ridiculousness!

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The announcement of the party:

Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008
Time: 9:30pm - 11:30pm
City/Town: Los Angeles, CA

MY one and only sweet 16…..eerrrr actually it’s my “suicidal 16″.
At the house of blues, on September 2nd from 8:30 (TIME HAS CHANGED FORM 9:30 TO 8:30 KEEP THAT IN MIND) to 11:30 pm.

MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE IS PLAYING
i suggest all who intend on coming go to itunes of youtube and look them. If you don’t like them, then please don’t come. all will be forced to jump around and dance. ALL.

YOU MUST BE WEARING BLACK OR RED OR YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN! this does not mean you have to wear something “nice” or “fancy” but there is a color code so do it!

Your bags will be searched at the door
not my rules, but it is the house of blues’ rules
so don’t be stupid and try to bring shit it
do it b4 you get into the party if you have to
and try to be stealth!

DON’T SEND ME (frances) YOUR ADDRESSES ANYMORE
SEND THEM TO GIANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pinkberry and The IN N’ Out truck will be catering. Of course there will be vegetarian food there to.

WE ARE ALSO HAVING A CONTEST
its the “who can look most dead contest”
if you dress up dead and are picked as the top 3 you will receive a: IPOD TOUCH and a $200 gift certificate to amoeba.
so get that face paint on, and try to make it as realistic as you can. there will only be 3 WINNERS.

i guess that’s it!
hope to see you guys there!

xx franny

Current Music: Au Pairs

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

From:

shery-dewinter.livejournal.com

Celeberties are actually people. But pedophiles are attracted to children who've yet to reach puberty.

Looks like she's damn well done with puberty and she looks like she's about to hit her 20's.

Hell, I'd do her if she was willing and I didn't know she's only 16.

From:

xquerenciax.livejournal.com

I don't think the term is as strictly defined as "children who've yet to reach puberty," but even if it was, that's irrelevant. There's something wrong with adults who desire children, even if those children make themselves look older. There's also something wrong with (the very popular and widespread) statements of sexual desire for children who look older when the adults making the statements are aware of the kid's age. The problem comes from the lack of recognition that the kid in question, however mature they intend to come off, is still a child, and sure, kids have plenty of sexuality, but that's for them to work out with other willing partners of the same age. Feeding the internet chatter about wishing to fuck recently pubescent celebrities will accomplish no good, but certainly can encourage harm.

The rush to express sexual desire for 15-16 year olds is unsettling, point final. You can argue the semantics of it, but when you know a kid's 15 years old and you're an adult, you're pushing a troubling agenda by insisting on labelling them fuckable.

From:

shery-dewinter.livejournal.com

1) it is
2) so if I desire someone and AFTER desire has set, I find their age out, there's something wrong with me?
3) She's 16, not 15. As said, the label came before I knew who she was (believe it or not, I had no idea what she looks like or even remembered her existence until I saw this post today), and just because it's there doesn't mean I'm going to act upon it, even in the very big IF given the chance.

From:

xquerenciax.livejournal.com

Fine. I don't think you're a paedophile and you're free to do whatever you want. However, what you post in public forums in both influenced by and influential to the general public current on these matters. The matters at present are defined according to the logic that whoever can be desired should be desired, we should advertise this desire, chime in with one another about it, and generally work toward lowering the boundaries that prevent people from feeling that it's acceptable to treat young teenagers as sexually available to adults.

If you desire someone who you find out is young, then find their age out, do whatever you like, but if you're going to post about your desire in a public forum, especially a public forum that begins with the headline marking the person as having just turned 16, you're engaged in a questionable action. Expect to be called on it.

From:

shery-dewinter.livejournal.com

...

Right.

From:

threestarblue.livejournal.com

where were you when that 22 year old creep took my virginity at age 16.?

sigh.

From:

xquerenciax.livejournal.com

I seriously don't understand why people above 19 date teenagers. I tried dating a 19 year old when I was 23 and the 4-year age gap was already so weird that I called things off pronto. Since then I've taught kids in their late teens and early 20s, and they're great people, but they're mostly just... not adults. I feel protective of them and obviously I want to teach them stuff, but I really don't get why anyone in their 20s (or above. yecch!) feels any kind of desire for someone that age when you're aware of how old they are. They're YOUNG-- which does not seem to me to be something attractive when you're older.

From:

kaligrrrl.livejournal.com

an adolescent is not a child. not an adult either but def, not a child.

From:

xquerenciax.livejournal.com

Semantics again: fine. An adolescent is of the class of people determined by age with whom adults should not have sex, should not endorse having sex, and should not encourage others to consider sexually. Already the problems with sexuality endemic to our culture are guaranteed to be acting upon people that age, and they are encouraged to submit themselves the same way they are encouraged not to see themselves as people possessed of 100% of the value adults have. I just think the power dynamics between adults and people who aren't adults are of huge influence and can easily poison a person for life if they're used the wrong way.

From:

kaligrrrl.livejournal.com

not semantics. adolescents are cognitively and physiologically different from children.

yes, there are potentially very problematic power differentials between adults and adolescents.

that said, I don't believe in a categorical imperative that adults and adolescents should never have sexual relationships or that those relationships are automatically damaging.

the real solution to reducing the damage caused by bad sexual relationships is to educate people from a young age about sexuality and love, allow them ownership of their bodies, support their their right to say no or yes to sexual experiences, not banning a whole class of relationships.

I say this as someone who as an adolescent had sexual relationships with adults and was not harmed by them.

also, where does adulthood begin?
the arbitrary legal marker of 18?
that disregards the fact that full adult brain development is not completed until approximately age 25 or so.
should over-25s not have sexual relationships with under-25s?
what about an 18 year old and a 16 year old?
should "normal" people and developmentally disabled people not have relationships because of the similar potential power differential?

I also find your policing of even the expression or thought of desire for adolescents profoundly wrong--one can not condemn the thoughts of others. actions, yes.

From:

xquerenciax.livejournal.com

Expression of thought is an action, and expressing thoughts in a public forum should always be open to criticism. It's only policing when it's enforced with something more than scorn.

I agree-- there's no set beginning to adulthood, and all kinds of people in their mid-20s are childish. The only proper answer is to teach kids to respect themselves enough not to get into shitty relationships governed by power imbalances, because for every teen who has a healthy and respectful sexual relationship with an adult, there are many more who have unhealthy and screwed up relationships, primarily because so many adults who pursue relationships with non-adults are in it because they want someone they can control, someone they see as being subservient to them.

However, while it's up to kids to make these choices properly, it's also up to adults to recognize that actions which celebrate the sexuality of non-adults as available generally are liable to drive down the barriers that make those sorts of power-imbalanced relationship unacceptable.

Bottom line: I don't think it's cool for a stranger to remark something to the effect of, "I'd like to fuck her" on the picture of a 16-year-old in a public forum, especially if no one else says, "It's really creepy that you're sexualizing a minor." I'm all for kids being taught to respect themselves and sexuality from a young age, and encouraging them to have healthy sexual experiences whenever they're ready, but I don't think that adults should be encouraging that from the perspective that begins with the statement, "I'd fuck her."